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That would make the biggest bumper car disaster you could ever imagine, bad enough that people don't adjust to weather conditions because they're too ignorant or stupid. Think back a few years ago some waffletwat end up in an accident she caused, sued and won her case because the roads weren't salted fast enough. Sand mix, good idea but where will a lot of that sand go as the plows now move it to the side of the road, into the drains and storm sewers plugging everything up. Until people learn to drive and adapt to winter road conditions, it's a lost cause.
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Salt on our roads is not only destructive to our vehicles it is also destructive to our environment. The salinity of many rivers and creeks in the GTA have been measure in winter months to be so high they can be classified as brackish water. Salt also kills many road side plants and trees. We don’t need salt at all as it doesn’t even have and effect more than grit when it drops below minus 7-10 degrees centigrade.
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salt is a bad thing all around and like said it has little effect after -8C or there abouts. Albert uses a sand or almost sand, they seem to be able to drive, mind you all of their vehicles have cracked windows come spring. I have seen where they have been trying beet juice as an alternative. I haven't heard the results though. Again people do need to slow down on slippery roads no matter what is on them.
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The other issue is the sewer system. Dump a couple of hundred thousand yard of sand in the seeds and wait for the spring melt. Will be lots of closed basements.
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QUOTE (Fisherman @ Sep 26, 2019 - 12:42 pm)
That would make the biggest bumper car disaster you could ever imagine, bad enough that people don't adjust to weather conditions because they're too ignorant or stupid. Think back a few years ago some waffletwat end up in an accident she caused, sued and won her case because the roads weren't salted fast enough. Sand mix, good idea but where will a lot of that sand go as the plows now move it to the side of the road, into the drains and storm sewers plugging everything up. Until people learn to drive and adapt to winter road conditions, it's a lost cause.
Everywhere else in canada seems to be doing fine. They're babying drivers over here and people love their lack of ability to drive on the roads not being salted. Nothing better than the temperature at 0 and climbing fast but since theres half an inch of snow falling they go out and spend 2 million bucks to plow the roads to justify their over inflated budget.
I do understand Where you're coming from but they've got to draw the line. They're not responsible for everything. I mean people have sued mcdonalds because "it made them fat" same lack of responsibility.
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QUOTE (sabmgb @ Sep 26, 2019 - 02:49 pm)
salt is a bad thing all around and like said it has little effect after -8C or there abouts. Albert uses a sand or almost sand, they seem to be able to drive, mind you all of their vehicles have cracked windows come spring. I have seen where they have been trying beet juice as an alternative. I haven't heard the results though. Again people do need to slow down on slippery roads no matter what is on them.
I'm from Alberta and hence my extra added hate on the matter. U do have more cracked windshields but that is totally better on the car than the while thing rusting out.
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And I forgot to mention parking lots. Where I work there are numerous large parking lots and a river on the other side of the road. They all put so much salt down, don't want any one slipping in their high heels or dress shoes. not sure where all this salt drains to, but the river ice there is usually about half the ice for a ways down stream.
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QUOTE (sabmgb @ Sep 27, 2019 - 05:57 am)
And I forgot to mention parking lots. Where I work there are numerous large parking lots and a river on the other side of the road. They all put so much salt down, don't want any one slipping in their high heels or dress shoes. not sure where all this salt drains to, but the river ice there is usually about half the ice for a ways down stream.
What you mention is the same type of accommodating that we do as a society. Instead of people having to use their brains and wear boots with grip and carry their high heels. They wear them in the ice and snow... slip and fall and use the city
Stop salting the roads in the city,, Switch to sand
